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Eire

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Use of digital camera for genealogy
« on: October 12, 2008, 03:55:43 PM »
If anyone using this forum currently uses a digital camera to copy a document, I would be interested in what equipment you use and how.  Or is it unnecessary, in that you just transcribe, copy on a copier or use a scanner?  Thank-you!
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 08:29:16 PM »
I went to the National Archives this year and used my little digital camera to make copies of civil war pension documents. It took a little doing to make sure I was waiting for the camera to focus properly. I set it on the highest quality, and got generally good results. The camera is not the newest, and only cost $150--I think 6x something. (you can tell I really understand this). If I had a tripod or some way to steady it more, I would have been even more successful. I finally ended up using my husband's shoulder. We came home with lots of images, and it worked very well--lots better than trying to photocopy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 09:33:43 PM »
I use a digital camera all the time for documents.  Make sure you set the camera on Macro.  Macro is a setting for close ups, it focuses at close distance.  I have used a camera to copy an entire book and it works great.  If you are taking a photo in bad light you need a tripod or you need to use the flash.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008, 10:27:00 PM »
Good information so far.   Macro setting and a tripod are helpful tools.   There are times when there is no other choice - try with the camera or you don't get an image at all.   I've taken pictures of documents and old photographs in many locations - outside in the sun, in a dark room with others holding  lights for me!   All were successful to some extent - but I always got an image I would never have got any other way.   Practice - it doesn't cost anything and you will be ready when you need to be.
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2008, 10:00:37 AM »
I use a digital camera whenever allowed.  I currently have a Canon Powershot XS 100 IS, but there are many decent ones out there.  It is important to use a macro (close-up) setting so that the page or paragraph-sized information will fill the page.  Also, don't forget that you can turn the camera if that will fill the image more efficiently. 

Move in and focus.  You don't need to record the desktop or most of the page margins; you want an image of the information on the page.

My camera is small enough that I can shoot with one hand while making the book as flat as possible with the other.  (How many times have my fingers been recorded spreading the page flat?)  Lay the book on the desk and stand above it, getting your camera shooting as perpendicular to the book as possible. Don't forget to physically turn the camera to a vertical, or portrait, view as most pages are taller than they are wide and you can get closer that way.

I take along a pocket-sized tripod, but the ISO (speed) is so high that I haven't needed it.  The light in most libraries is sufficient for hand-held legible images.  If your camera has an adjustable speed, a higher IOS number will give you the ability to shoot in dimmer conditions.  The image deteriorates somewhat under higher speed, but we're not shooting photos for magazine covers and the resulting images will be fine.  (Sitting near a window may help, too, though direct sunlight may show distracting paper fibers and shadows so would best be avoided.)  Most of the time, I admit, I just use an automatic setting and get good results.

Some other hints---
1. ALWAYS copy the title page and the publication information.  I do that first so that I know that the following images are from that book.  HOWEVER, it's also recommended to make a written record of the title of the source and which page numbers were copied from that source and subject in case the information is scrambled somewhere between your camera, computer, and photo program.  There's nothing worse than finding information on a page which you can use but to not know from which of the 10 sources you searched it comes.

2. Make sure that the page number can be read, even if that means you must take a separate shot of just the page number.  This is for the same reason as above, so that you can accurately cite the page number of the information source.  Again, you may want to shoot the page number first. Another option is to record the title and page number of a slip of paper or small post-it and include that in the image.

3.  As mentioned above, zero in on the information needed.  If you find that the information on your relative is only 1/3 of the page, record the page number (hard copy as well as photographing), then turn the camera as needed and move in to record just that part of the page.  The image will be large enough to read easily without extraneous information surrounding it.

4. In larger books you may want to move in and record the page in sections, perhaps a third of a page at a time.  Make sure that there is some overlap of information in your shots so that the entire page is recorded, if needed, and so that you can recontruct the order of the page correctly.  (Don't forget to physically turn the camera to a horizontal or landscape view if that will better serve the purpose.)

5. CHECK your image.  Always immediately review your shots.  Sometimes you might find that the camera didn't focus properly or that you copied only part of the information you wanted.  You can erase and immediately copy a better image.  That's much nicer than getting home and discovering that the last numeral in that date you wanted was cut out of the image and you'll have to go back and look it up again.  (Or, since you have the source title and page number, you might be able to call the repository and get someone to check for you.  Still, a nuisance that can be avoided rather easily with a quick check.)

6.  Try to hold the camera steadily and hold your breath as you take the shot, squeezing the shutter button, trying not to jerk the camera as you do so.  This should result in decent hand-held images.  Note: This is more important in trying to copy a small portion of a page as any movement is more pronounced.  Keeping your arms close to your body will help, too.

One advantage of using a camera is that you can worry less about transcription errors in your notes as you have an image of the original to refer to.  Also, you can copy more information more quickly than by hand.  I have found some rather lengthy (several page) histories or genealogies in some books which I can record then read later at home.  The ability to look at the information at leisure that evening in your hotel room or home, doing additional research when the repository is closed for the day, gives you time to research for additional information in the repository while it's open.  If traveling, of course, you will want to review that information in the evening (or at lunch---You do stop to eat, don't you?) in case it raises new clues which you might be able to check before heading home, especially if the repository is far from home.

I hope some of these clues help if you're starting digitally photographing records.  Good luck with your searches!
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2008, 04:04:10 PM »
I have used a digital camera in my genealogy research for about a year and a half.  Over that time I have taken about 2500 genealogy photos at many locations including the FHL in Salt Lake City, the Canadian National Archives and many libraries and cemeteries.  Works with books, microfilm and gravestones.  Saves a fortune in copies and it is easier to manage a large number of files rather than a large amount of paper.

My camera is a Canon PowerShot G7.  Important features for this work are:
- image stabilization.  A lot of the time I seem to be holding it with one hand.
- auto focus.  Distance is constantly changing and its a lot of work to manually focus.
- auto shutter.  Most photos need to be taken without flash.
- 10 megapixel.  You will frequently need to blow up the image or have to take shots from a distance to see the whole page.
- ability to focus close to the object.  The G7 will focus down to about a foot and a half in normal mode and about a half inch in macro.  I normally find that in order to get a whole page in a single photo I never have to use macro.

As well as the camera you will need photo editing software.  Many photos will need to be taken at an angle to avoid reflections or with different camera rotations to match the subject.  Pretty much any software can handle the rotation but I use PhotoImpact which is now sold by Corel.  It can remove the distortions caused by strange camera angles as well as apply many types of correction to bring out hard to read images. 

I use .jpg file format.  It is important to make sure the camera and editing software are set for maximum resolution with no compression.  This format supports embedding information inside the file including information automatically supplied by the camera as well as descriptive information you may want to add.  I use Irfanview to manage the information in the photograph.  It is a great program with the side benefit of being free.  Irfanview can also work with batches of photos, create thumbnails, and put text (e.g., copyright info) on the face of the photo.
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 12:43:07 PM »
The online link for Irfanview (and I agree that it's terrific and free to boot!) is: http://www.irfanview.com
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 11:56:19 AM »
I would go broke if I printed out paper copies of deed records from county deed offices, court records and even book pages at the library. I use a small Canon SD600 camera and it takes easy to read close-ups of documents or photos that I load onto my computer for later use. I sometimes convert images of text to a word processing document - I prefer to use tesseract for this as it seems to do the best job with the fewest errors. I find that simply hand-holding the camera works quite well, with sharp results. I cannot say enough good about the optics quality of canon cameras.

Info on tesseract is at:
http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 03:08:46 PM »
I sometimes convert images of text to a word processing document - I prefer to use tesseract for this as it seems to do the best job with the fewest errors.
Info on tesseract is at:
http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/

Oh, nice recommendation! Freeware and open source. Off to try this...
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 06:08:03 PM »
I sometimes convert images of text to a word processing document - I prefer to use tesseract for this as it seems to do the best job with the fewest errors.
Info on tesseract is at:
http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/

Oh, nice recommendation! Freeware and open source. Off to try this...

Try FreeOCR.net same engine and much to my surprise it converted a .jpg image to text. My commercial OCR software seems only to like pdf files.
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Re: Use of digital camera for genealogy
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 10:15:20 PM »
I use a Nikon Coolpix P5100 (takes good macros) and have used an Olympus Stylus 500.  Both work fine for hand held photos of documents.  I'd like to get one of those Gorilla tripods that can bend and clamp onto anything.  I've found a tripod to be helpful for taking photos of old pictures especially if one doesn't want to use a flash.

My latest genealogy photography project are pictures of memorabilia and heirlooms. For example, Grandpa's old rocking chair, the special piece of china that Grandma always used for Sunday dinners, the Eaton's doll.   I then get the story of the memorabilia or heirloom from those that remember...and the bonus is the other stories come out.  The stories, for me, make a family tree truly a family history.

Joan Miller
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 10:22:09 PM »
Quite a few years ago, I used my first digital camera to copy several photo albums that belonged to various relatives.  I'm not sure, but I think that camera probably did about 1 megapixel.  It occurs to me now that I should re-do those copies with the cameras available to me now.  I hadn't thought of doing that before, but I believe I must.

Betty
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 10:40:40 PM »
Hi Betty,
We photographed several old albums this summer at a family reunion and the pictures turned out quite well. 

I've also used a high quality (commercial) color photocopier for pictures.  I've found color is preferable for copying the black and white photos as one can get the tones and less black.   The photocopier is handy to make several copies at once to hand out to relatives.

Digital copies are still the best though as they can be linked into one's genealogy software.

Joan Miller
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2009, 03:35:44 AM »
I use a digital camera (Canon Powershot) mounted on a copy stand or tripod and connected to my laptop to digitize all my genealogical documentation and photographs.  I can operate the camera from the computer and copy documents very rapidly.  The digital file can be easily attached to a person's record.  It greatly simplifies the process of keeping all of the documentation for an individual in one place.

Irfanview is also useful for recording (in the IPTC fields) the source of the document.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2009, 06:35:37 AM »
I'd endorse most of the points about technique expressed in previous postings, but most professional photographers say that it's a BAD thing to hold your breath when taking images. Practice exhaling as you press the shutter - it does result in less camera shake. Breath-holding tends to make your whole body tense and when you press the shutter that movement actually moves your whole body, but exhaling gives a relaxed state which absorbs those minor tremors. Also another good point (especially in various archives which don't allow tripods or flash) is to have a camera which has a viewfinder and to use that when taking the image rather than (as you often see) holding the camera at or near arm's length which exaggerates any movement. With your elbows tucked in to your sides and the camera resting against your head you are in a much more stable position and you'll optimise your chances of getting sharp images.
And as for the perennial problem of "my fingers" at the sides of the page, and using a camera one-handed; I've had quite a deal of success by simply asking someone else if they would mind holding the book for me - family historians are usually a friendly bunch and you never know who you might meet.
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